Posts by Actigall Ur

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And China's version of the Nobel prize goes to ... Robert Mugabe! WTF?!

by LoveUniHateExams in

according to the guardian, the confucius peace prize has been awarded this year to one robert gabriel mugabe.

yes, you read that right.

i suppose i could've put this thread in either the entertainment section or joke section instead.

Actigall Ur

Nelson Mandela? You can't be serious. Do you know anything about the ANC and such?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4gv7isyXMI

My family owned a large farm and some apartment rentals in South Africa before the apartheid ended. Fortunately, they foresaw what was inevitable and managed to sell off their real estate holdings and the farm before it ended. In the early 2000's they returned to SA to visit family and see how the new farm owners were faring. Sadly it didn't work out too well for the next owners who were also South African and decided to stay there. The farm was put back on the market and sat there for years as the market collapsed. Eventually, the state "acquired" the property through adverse possession as they claimed back taxes and other nonsensical lies. It was then planned to be turned into a community farm to feed the poor. Again, that didn't work out too well. The farm property is abandoned and I believe still sits desolate to this day.

As far as Mugabe, that low IQ imbecile who said in 2014 - "No whites can own land in Zimbabwe" and then changed his mind just one year later and is now begging white farmers to return- he can go to hell.

The last good leader or politician? JFK. And they killed him.

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Huge court victory against JW grandparents trying to indoctrinate their granddaughter!

by marmot in

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/jehovah-s-witness-grandparents-ordered-to-keep-faith-to-themselves-1.3282193.

a pair of devout jehovah's witnesses have been ordered by a b.c.

provincial court judge not to talk about religion in front of their four-year-old granddaughter.. the couple lost their bid for unsupervised access to the girl because they insisted on taking her to worship at their faith's kingdom hall despite the repeated objections of the child's mother.. the girl is identified only as a.w.

Actigall Ur

You beat me to it! Just got the link in an email! This is GREAT NEWS!

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big accident at Warwick construction site

by oppostate in

the wt society is fond of using the tilt-up method of construction where a network of rebar is made on the ground, concrete poured on it and allowed to cure, then the whole thing is tilted up and voila' you've got yourself a massive big-ass wall ready made.

these walls for several stories-high buildings are indeed massive and weighty so you need a heavy-duty crane to raise into position.. i just heard from an eye-witness ldc volunteer that while there a few weeks ago they had an enormous accident.

the crane tilted and crashed, the only one hurt was its operator.

Actigall Ur

Wow, this must have been hush hush

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What would you do if the Society Declares Bankruptcy

by Quarterback in

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special pioneers let go.

bethel workers laid off.

construction halts, what's next?

Actigall Ur

Well, it is possible but they still have a lot of assets so they'd restructure first and soon but I'd venture to say that most R&F JW's won't know a thing about it. Their cash burn rate was growing exponentially while growth has stalled to 0% which means less income, so they had to make drastic cuts. I'd tell everyone of you guys to go out to your local hall where nobody knows you, pretend to be some interested person, order all the literature you can and bibles, ask for a bible study and then drown them in questions about 607 BCE, child abuse scandals, UN membership and other things. Those listening around you will begin to do their own research. Plus, we all need to do our part in making lots of noise about the child abuse scandals. Write you congressman. Call every newspaper you know and have them investigate. Get a class action lawsuit going. Get off your assses and do something! I know I am!

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Doing the Right Thing, Making a Choice (shunning)

by Simon in

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continuing a topic that is dear to my heart because of my experience as both a shunner and a shunnee .... some people seem to get very agitated when i talk about the responsibility people have to make the right choices and that despite all the wrongs within the wts, people themselves have a role to play and some personal responsibility for the experience.. notice i said "some" responsibility, not "complete" - this doesn't absolve the wts for the things they do wrong in any way shape or form.

so please don't get argumentative about possible meanings and absolutes - of course the wts has a significant role to play but we need to decide what we're trying to achieve here and why the personal choice is so important.. i'm also not talking about actual crimes that the wts should answer for.

if they cover up child abuse for instance, they absolutely should be reported immediately.

Actigall Ur

@Simon- Well said. As I wrote in another post, this topic is close to my heart because I shunned my sister for 5 years. I made that choice. It was so wrong and evil but I was brainwashed. FU(K THIS CULT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Treat Disfellowshipped as "Men of the Nations and Tax Collectors"

by BluesBrother in

we are more than familiar with the wts rules that say the d/f'd ones , even close relatives outside the home are to be shunned completely "not even saying a greeting" except in very exceptional circumstances.

there is ,however, a line of thought that reasons on jesus' words at matthew 18 ,regarding personal disputes,and their application of it to being disfellowshipped.. matthew 18:15-17.

15 moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone.

Actigall Ur

@Blues- This topic is VERY dear to me because I shunned my own sister for 5 years. I don't want to get into this again but if I were to believe in the bible again, there is no way I would believe that "disfellowshipping" is scriptural, let alone, CHRISTIAN as you have proven. But disfellowshipping is a useful tool this cult uses to keep members in line. I shunned my sister because I was taught to believe it was the right thing to do and out of fear of being shunned myself. This cult needs to be destroyed. NOW.

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The public prosecuter is interested in getting information on JWs.

by Driving Force in

background information.

i myself am in full fade mode with an overly active jw wife, who refuses to discuss any point whatsoever.

a friend who is not a jw nor has ever been a jw; he studied for a few months, then realized what an evil cult it is and stopped.

Actigall Ur

@Virgo- Yeah that seems to be the commonality in these cases. Makes me so angry. It's always "let's keep it quite because we don't want to bring reproach upon "Jehovah's holy name."

The worst is when I hear an elderly sister or brother say, "oh let Jehovah deal with [X-situation] in HIS own time. Jehovah will take care of things" Yeah, it's become quite apparent that either "Jehovah" doesn't give a sh*t or he's dead. So many of these cases should have been exposed by "Jehovah" the day this sh*t happened, not 20 YEARS LATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The public prosecuter is interested in getting information on JWs.

by Driving Force in

background information.

i myself am in full fade mode with an overly active jw wife, who refuses to discuss any point whatsoever.

a friend who is not a jw nor has ever been a jw; he studied for a few months, then realized what an evil cult it is and stopped.

Actigall Ur

@Giodano- Thanks! I know we don't see eye-to-eye on other things but we have a common enemy that needs to be brought to justice! Pass this on if you can! The more signatures the better!

Peace!

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WT Society SEC Records : Hedge Funds, Cayman Islands, Financial Losses - Links

by flipper in

so my wife and i were curious so i researched some financial links and found records indicating that the wt society has been operating at a loss since the year 2012. as you read the links it shows a loss of 10 million $$$ in 2012, about 16 million $$$ in 2013, and a whopping loss of 56 million $$$ in 2014 - where the expenditures exceeded the revenues for each of those years in the amount i've mentioned.

also there is a link on this same website with the sec records indicating that the wt society and it's representatives funneled 40 million $$$$ into hedge funds in the cayman islands as early as 2007. if you look online on other sites you can see evidence that indicates the wt society attended hedge fund conferences to look into more shadiness in 2011 and isn't it curious that by 2012 the wt society started showing losses.

anyway here is the link : https://www.watchtowerlies.com/the_watchtower_revenue.html .. feel free to check this link out and other links on that link indicating the cayman island connection.

Actigall Ur

@Crazy guy- It was just something that he heard in Bethel. That was last year and I haven't hear anything since so seems like it might have been something someone in the finance dept said when they did a cash flow and calculated their burn rate.... but maybe this will turn out to be true especially if they've got potentially thousands of child abuse cases pending!

@Flipper- Yeah, they will never admit the truth, just like they will NEVER admit that 607 is WRONG. It's, "keep the charade going for as long as we can" kind of cult. Like I told crazyguy that was already last year so it is obvious that someone saw something that caused alarm.

I think I might have gotten out of this cult just in time!

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The public prosecuter is interested in getting information on JWs.

by Driving Force in

background information.

i myself am in full fade mode with an overly active jw wife, who refuses to discuss any point whatsoever.

a friend who is not a jw nor has ever been a jw; he studied for a few months, then realized what an evil cult it is and stopped.

Actigall Ur

@Virgo- Thank you. In my old hall there was a rumor that an older elder had touched a boy in the late 1990's and he was briefly removed for "health reasons." Never reported to the police. It was only a rumor at the time so I couldn't bring it to the police but it seems like I won't need to anymore. Heard the elders reported him just a few weeks ago because they are afraid of the consequences of hiding the case any longer! I wonder what the society will do to them now! Oh and his wife knew about it all along. At least she was loyal to him but still she didn't do the right thing!

Yes pass this on! Call you local newspaper! Write your congressman! Take action! The more noise we make eventually someone with the courage and desire for a Pulitzer will open up Pandora's box so wide that it will blow the lid off this soda pop stand!